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Offline grazan

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Re: EHD
« Reply #60 on: September 27, 2020, 12:06:34 PM »
obviously there's nothing that can be done about EHD but that doesn't mean stop doing anything …..

What's the game plan now and moving forward …. is it status quo and according to their press release 4 weeks ago a normal occurrence?

Maybe the DEC holds some sort of virtual town hall to explain what's going on behind the scenes and answer some of my dumb questions ….

I easily found 3 dead deer where none were 10 days ago … statistically what does that mean? instead of using a Vietnam era body count means is anyone modeling what the actual numbers are and will that data impact the endless numbers of 3m doe permits now and in the future ….

did the cold snap do anything last week or does all the rotting infected corpses provide more ammo for a new batch of midges now that we once again have tropical weather …

I have all kind of stupid questions and very few of them are answered in a 4 week old press release telling me how normal this is...

I've hunted over half my life and most in NY … tripping over 3 dead deer feet apart is not normal …. not for here
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Re: EHD
« Reply #61 on: September 27, 2020, 01:56:00 PM »
Agree with the above 100%.

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Re: EHD
« Reply #62 on: September 27, 2020, 07:45:00 PM »
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Re: EHD
« Reply #63 on: September 27, 2020, 09:09:07 PM »
Yes this is not normal and as usual DEC is blind 3m is a unit with tons of dmp permits are they gonna rescind some??? That would be my main concern!!!

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Re: EHD
« Reply #64 on: September 27, 2020, 11:05:22 PM »
One of my customers watched a buck die in her yard today. She called DEC to see if they wanted to come and test or remove the deer. They told her they were no longer testing.

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Re: EHD
« Reply #65 on: September 28, 2020, 07:29:28 AM »
yup … the DEC seems to have cut and run in my opinion …….. I also recall years ago driving by a deer farm out in Goshen …. Musicon Deer Farm at 385 Scotchtown Rd, Goshen, NY 10924 ….. not sure if its still running but I recall one of the few articles about this saying one of the first cases was near Purgatory road which is a few miles from where this game farm is …… if that game farm is still running I would hope the DEC would investigate any connection
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Re: EHD
« Reply #66 on: September 28, 2020, 07:31:08 AM »
I agree with above, where is the updated DEC press release? I sent them an email last week asking for an update and what areas are they most concerned with and they referred me to the article from 9/3...   

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Re: EHD
« Reply #67 on: September 28, 2020, 07:36:38 AM »
and the article refers u to an endless loop in REGION 3 on who to call ….. the first few numbers rejected my call until I was able to leave a voicemail which im sure no one will return ….
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Re: EHD
« Reply #68 on: September 28, 2020, 09:04:54 AM »
Deer farm in Goshen has been closed for quite a while now. It will be up to hunters to use or not use their DMP.

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Re: EHD
« Reply #69 on: September 28, 2020, 09:46:33 AM »
Deer farm in Goshen has been closed for quite a while now. It will be up to hunters to use or not use their DMP.

Exactly, that’s why it’s important for the hunting community, to get the word out, so that more hunters choose to not use their tags in places affected.


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Re: EHD
« Reply #70 on: September 28, 2020, 02:49:38 PM »
I’m hearing of signs of this disease in New Paltz and Highland.  I have two buddies, not on this site, telling me they are seeing the deer staggering and finding them dead etc .  I don’t know specific details others then that.  Not good tho.
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Re: EHD
« Reply #71 on: September 28, 2020, 04:33:07 PM »
I’m hearing of signs of this disease in New Paltz and Highland.  I have two buddies, not on this site, telling me they are seeing the deer staggering and finding them dead etc .  I don’t know specific details others then that.  Not good tho.
Wow that’s not good, I did see a post about a guy that boated down the walkill river and found 6 dead deer including one really nice buck. So far I haven’t found any dead deer 🤞. As mentioned above the hunting community needs to inform each other and make smart choices when it comes to doe harvesting.

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Re: EHD
« Reply #72 on: September 28, 2020, 07:45:12 PM »
Buddy found a bunch all the way out in Patterson. That’s 45 miles east of Goshen, the furthest west I know of. The I 84 corridor seems to be hit the hardest, but It is apparently creeping It’s way north. I did some more scouting today and found 6 dead in the morning, but located some areas that don’t appear to have it yet, with some good deer sign.

I heard a rumor, that the DEC might close off Stewart, so questioned the DEC biologist, I been sending reports to, and this is the response.


“Currently, DEC doesn't have any plans to close or otherwise limit deer harvest at Stewart SF this coming hunting season.  DEC manages deer populations on a WMU level and the impact of EHD on that scale is still unknown.  That being said, certain locations that seem to have been hit harder by EHD may see a decrease in recreational harvest this season.  If, after this season, harvest indices suggest deer populations on the WMU scale are at or below desired levels, future issuance of Deer Management Permits (DMPs) may be reduced to either stabilize or increase deer populations as necessary.   

Thank you for the observational reports you have submitted, it does seem like more people are becoming aware of the outbreak and taking action to report EHD moralities. 

If you have any more questions, feel free to let me know.”



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Re: EHD
« Reply #73 on: September 29, 2020, 09:37:34 AM »
YOTE …. THanks for sharing but I work for the government and that sounds like to me all the non-answers I get all day ….. that answer doesn't seem like the DEC is getting out in front of this and by time they are done with business as usual it maybe too late …… getting in front of this to me is doing things like closing Stewart …. restricting or eliminating doe harvest and 1 buck only in Orange county … until @ least the DEc engages the public with real time data that supports that there's no need for measures like that ……  every time I post elsewhere I get the typical statement "the DEC cant cure EHD what do you expect them to do" well to be honest I expect them to do things I don't know can even be done because im just joe civilian buying my hunting license …. they are the ones charged with managing and protecting the wildlife …...
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Re: EHD
« Reply #74 on: September 29, 2020, 09:45:01 AM »
Typical NY agency, re active not pro active..... some other states have no problem shutting down a area if they see a problem with the MANAGEMENT of game harvesting, but no not NY, they will see about it next year, lol.
But with that said, it is Mother Nature’s work, maybe it’s a way of mixing up the gene pool, it sucks and I would like to see some changes or restrictions to affected areas but I also put trust in Mother Nature.

 

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