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Fishing- In The New York Area => Hudson River Striper Fishing => Topic started by: touge30 on September 16, 2023, 10:51:49 PM

Title: saltwater fee
Post by: touge30 on September 16, 2023, 10:51:49 PM
got a questionaire on my phone how i felt about paying for salt water registry
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: Ziffystriperchum on September 17, 2023, 02:06:55 PM
What is your response? . . just curious
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: Rickhem on September 18, 2023, 06:44:22 AM
I got one too, and I did the short survey associated with it.
I am reading between the lines a bit, but it seems like this is something they're looking to make happen.  I voted against it, but with all the other questions they asked, it would be easy enough to report that "the majority of anglers of a certain age and gender, fishing a set number of days from beaches and jetties supported the measure".
That's usually how these things go.
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: touge30 on September 18, 2023, 09:46:30 AM
i didnt like the minimum fee was at least ten dollars.Sounds like just more law,which we dont need .Im not interested either
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: Pointer on September 18, 2023, 12:17:55 PM
I received the survey as well. I have no problem with it provided the funds from it are used for the benefit of marine fisheries.
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: gunner on September 18, 2023, 02:48:27 PM
Absolutely not . We already pay a fortune for everything in this state. Gas tax on my gas for the boat and taxes on all fishing gear get it from there.
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: ole bleu on September 18, 2023, 06:35:43 PM
 +1 Gunner just like the lottery is for education but the school taxes increase every year just another thing for the sportsman to fund
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: Rickhem on September 19, 2023, 06:33:10 AM
provided the funds from it are used for the benefit of marine fisheries.

That was actually my comment on that question.  I said that NY has a long history of misappropriating funds for things like this, and I don't want to pay for something that the politicians divert those funds to at a later date.
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: Timbow on September 23, 2023, 08:18:50 AM
provided the funds from it are used for the benefit of marine fisheries.

That was actually my comment on that question.  I said that NY has a long history of misappropriating funds for things like this, and I don't want to pay for something that the politicians divert those funds to at a later date.
Exactly! look at what this state has done for years  with ATV and off-road registrations. Said they would use it to create trails or at a minimum a place to legally ride but we have virtually nothing. Just more law and the ability to ticket you for riding without registration even on your own property. Never underestimate the thievery of NYS politicians!
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: Pointer on September 23, 2023, 11:57:46 PM
I wasn’t trying to say the funds would be used appropriately, in this state that would be a lot to expect. I was just saying if it was truly used to benefit marine fisheries I wouldn’t have a problem with it.
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: Rickhem on September 25, 2023, 06:43:15 AM
As an occasional visitor to Florida, I know they have a saltwater license.  Lots of breakdowns for it too.  You can buy 3, or 7 day, or annual.  Also different fees for shoreline only fishing.  But just about every causeway has parking areas, small boat ramps, and fishing piers that those funds paid for.  You can see all that money being put to use.  There are so many of those that any one I've every been to has had very few people there, there's just that many to pick from. 
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: walkabout on September 25, 2023, 03:23:50 PM
They get enough of our money not in favor of giving any more.
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: Appleman on September 25, 2023, 04:55:39 PM
death and taxes-----i believe old Ben F wrote that in Poor Richards some years back-- something about the only things that you can count on........
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: walkabout on September 25, 2023, 06:40:29 PM
Has anyone seen the intrest rates for a used car..omg. where is all that money going?
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: ole bleu on September 25, 2023, 06:53:30 PM
I don’t dare to say
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: touge30 on October 03, 2023, 04:42:28 PM
Article in the new sportsman paper.Sure enough more law,and 15 dollars
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: DoOver on March 21, 2024, 07:07:44 PM
Oh good so the local gendarme will now be able to patrol our newcomers whom are storming our borders as I type and clear them out from all the beaches and fishing spots that they've infested?

FUKH!!
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: touge30 on March 22, 2024, 03:15:30 PM
i wish they would instead of checking me every 4 days
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: jdbbowhunter on March 23, 2024, 02:31:39 PM
Chances are if they put out a survey , it's already a done deal.
Title: Re: saltwater fee
Post by: Rickhem on March 25, 2024, 07:40:24 AM
Not sure that this is just another NY ripoff, or if it's just being passed along.
I worked at an outdoor store in NJ back when the first iteration of this registration came out.  We'd encourage everyone to sign up for it since it was no cost, and the way it was presented was that it would help the FEDS judge how many were utilizing the resource, and allocate funding accordingly.  Since NJ had no saltwater license, this should have helped us get some funds.  I remember that if you were already registered in another state, you didn't have to register again in NJ, and vice versa.  Looks like that isn't the deal anymore.  Here's a blurb from the NJ site:

In 2006 the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) was charged with the creation of a universal phonebook – or registry – of all current saltwater anglers in the United States. The registry was developed to allow NOAA to quickly and easily contact current saltwater anglers in an effort to gain more accurate and timely information on recreational fisheries. States were allowed to establish their own registry program for saltwater anglers that fished in their state. The New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection established its own registry program, the New Jersey Saltwater Recreational Registry Program, to exempt saltwater recreational anglers fishing in New Jersey’s marine and tidal waters from the federal registry and the $15.00 federal registration fee imposed in 2011. The Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) implemented the New Jersey Saltwater Recreational Registry Program (NJSRRP) effective May 4, 2011 through Administrative Order No. 2011-05 .

They still don't charge in NJ, but you have to register in NJ if you fish there.  Seems like it's the Federal Registry that wants the $15.
And from what I'm seeing, there is still no fee in NY either, but you do have to register.

So it looks like the next step in the process, having everyone register in each state individually, is now at hand.
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