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General Activities => Shooting and supplies => Topic started by: Tippin'Scales on January 22, 2020, 04:10:39 PM
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I've begun the process of getting my Concealed Carry permit and was curious to what the majority of you guys have? From what I'm reading 9mm seams to be most common with low recoil and reasonably inexpensive to shoot.
I also liked the idea of a .22WMR for practice and plinking in addition but it looks like semi auto pistols are not common. I'm not really interested in revolvers so a .22lr might be my only option but I liked the idea of .22WMR as a compact defense gun even though it's not traditionally used for it.
What are your opinions?
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9mm good way to go for CC, a lot of good choices out there, as far as the 22mag, stay away from semi auto would take a look for a ruger single six convertible comes with two cylinders one 22lr and 22mag. this is my choice when I go for hikes back up coyote gun. get out to some stores see what catches your eye and feels good in your hand.
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Am I even able to handle a pistol prior to issue of CC? I thought that was a no-no but yet they want you to purchase a gun to be registered on your permit. The safety class did absolutely nothing as far as walking thru the application process 😠 or what state reciprocity are recognized if traveling.
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9mm good way to go for CC, a lot of good choices out there, as far as the 22mag, stay away from semi auto would take a look for a ruger single six convertible comes with two cylinders one 22lr and 22mag. this is my choice when I go for hikes back up coyote gun. get out to some stores see what catches your eye and feels good in your hand.
I'll look into the Ruger thanks! That's a cool option to switch cylinder for 22 or 22WMR I'm just not a fan of the double action heavy trigger pull. The course had some dummy guns and if used as single action only it isn't as bad.
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I carry the S.W. body guard .380 fits nice in my front pocket with no holster. When i use a holster its on my ankle
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I carry the S.W. body guard .380 fits nice in my front pocket with no holster. When i use a holster its on my ankle
I looked up that .380 bodyguard, that's pretty small.... I can see it easily going in pocket. I was considering the .380 but wasn't sure if way underpowered as my main defense gun. Trying to stay with only 2 for now not looking for an arsenal bu I can say that compact .380 bodyguard would be easy concealed carry weapon.
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.380 is my pocket gun carried all the time but out and about I carry the Sig P365 in 9mm w a pancake holster on the hip. Purchased last year, really sweet compact gun.
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You don't specifically mention concealed carry as your only need... so several threads:
The first rule of defending yourself with a gun is having a gun. As such you need to pick something reasonably powerful, completely reliable, and small enough and light enough that you actually carry the gun. As such, for most social work I carry a S&W Airweight 38 Special +P in a Galco horsehide pocket holster. This gun is small enough and light enough to carry year round even when wearing shorts. It is also quite accurate for a 15 oz. 2" gun -- 8" plates at 25 yards isn't difficult. In cold weather I can carry a full size 1911 .45 ACP under my coat... but that's only a small portion of the year. Today I'd seriously look at a S&W 442 or Sig Sauer P365 for carry. My son just got a 442.
For range use about anything can be used... That said, for shooting skill development a .22 rimfire with decent sights and trigger and ammo by the case is a good way to go for the first gun. ;) Get all the basics down... grip, sight picture, sight alignment, breathing, etc. and shoot a lot of intentional shots at paper (not just blasting away plinking). Once you have the basics down, with a good .22 soda cans at 100 yards is reliably doable... as are .22 casings at 5 yards. Of all the folks I suggested this to I don't think any of them actually did it for their first gun... it was their number 2, 3 or 4 gun. They typically bought a center fire that was expensive to feed, that led them to flinch or otherwise not shoot small groups, and that limited the rounds put down range. For example, one guy in the early '80s had to have an 8 3/8" nickeled S&W Model 29 .44 magnum when he saw it in the store where we went to get him a Ruger .22. All logic went out the window when he saw that gun... so did any chance of learning all the basics well. Yeah, he got a .22 eventually but not before he had a lot of bad habits entrenched in his mind and muscles.
For hunting. If you're skilled enough to hunt with a handgun you're probably skilled enough to make a good choice.
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Thanks guys lots of valuable info there... I'm surprised all the .38 being so common as the primary carry.
I don't see myself using handgun for hunting but that may change in time so that puts my needs more for personal protection and range to hone my skills. I'll admit handling the dummy guns in class felt extremely awkward even though I've been around and shot long guns for 37 years. I guess it will take time for comfort level to carry.
I've been looking and for some reason the Sig P320 is looking promising in 9mm or possibly in .38 if offered in that frame. I think a .22 in conjunction with the 9mm or .38 auto
gives me a good starting point. I guess thanking I'd get away with only 1 or 2 pistols to do it all is a crazy idea...lol
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.380 is my pocket gun carried all the time but out and about I carry the Sig P365 in 9mm w a pancake holster on the hip. Purchased last year, really sweet compact gun.
You carry one in every pocket. Your the only guy i know that has a outline of a gun worn into your pockets like a snuff can..lol
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Always prepared !!! 8)
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Kimber micro 9 , or my AMT .380 , or my little .25 auto pocket gun ....all easily concealed carry guns , 1911-.45 on certain occasions:-)...
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I'm downsizing my collection. Can be seen here.
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I bought a ruger SR22 (22lr) as my first pistol after getting my permit knowing it would be very manageable and affordable to plink. Box of 500 CCI minimags hp on sale as low as 29.99. I learned how to shoot in the navy so after having my 22lr for a little bit I now need to upgrade for personal protection. That would be the benefit of skipping 22lr and going 9mm or something similar in power and affordable ammo
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1) find a carry gun that is comfortable enough in your hand that you can shoot it straight
2) It should be light enough to carry comfortably
3) It should be small enough to easily conceal
4) It should be powerful enough to do the intended job
You will find that you may have to compromise on all of these criteria, but there are so many choices that you will find something that you like.
I believe NY still requires that once you are approved for a handgun you must buy one within a short period of time. I suggest that you buy the .22 that your thinking about and do a lot of shooting before you buy an actual carry gun.
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I believe NY still requires that once you are approved for a handgun you must buy one within a short period of time.
I got my permit in Sullivan County in the last few years and that was not a current rule (at least for the county). I also heard that you needed to buy a handgun and bring the receipt before they would issue permit but now they issued permit card and I had to bring back receipt to get permit card amended before picking up. There was no set time I had to buy one to keep permit
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I believe NY still requires that once you are approved for a handgun you must buy one within a short period of time.
I got my permit in Sullivan County in the last few years and that was not a current rule (at least for the county). I also heard that you needed to buy a handgun and bring the receipt before they would issue permit but now they issued permit card and I had to bring back receipt to get permit card amended before picking up. There was no set time I had to buy one to keep permit
My son was recently issued a full carry in Ulster County and there was no mention of a time limit. After he picked up the permit he bought a gun and went back for the coupon. The downside is that the purchase still had to be approved by a judge so there was a delay in picking it up. The issuing judge commented that my son having taken a safety course as well as an Article 35 course with a professional trainer made him comfortable issuing the full carry permit.
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not sure about the time line to buy a gun, have talked to the ulster guys about this in permit office ,said they have permits sitting for over a year waiting for people to pick them up. might be a county by county thing . they change things on a whim all the time
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I believe NY still requires that once you are approved for a handgun you must buy one within a short period of time.
I got my permit in Sullivan County in the last few years and that was not a current rule (at least for the county). I also heard that you needed to buy a handgun and bring the receipt before they would issue permit but now they issued permit card and I had to bring back receipt to get permit card amended before picking up. There was no set time I had to buy one to keep permit
My son was recently issued a full carry in Ulster County and there was no mention of a time limit. After he picked up the permit he bought a gun and went back for the coupon. The downside is that the purchase still had to be approved by a judge so there was a delay in picking it up. The issuing judge commented that my son having taken a safety course as well as an Article 35 course with a professional trainer made him comfortable issuing the full carry permit.
May I ask what judge he was assigned?
What is Article 35 course, was that the live fire additional training? Safeshoot mentioned an additional live fire course after I go thru the additional NRA online segment to complete my safety training, is this same or different?
I have squeaky clean record other than a couple minor traffic violations that I've never even had 1 point go on my license so I'm hopeful of getting full carry first go around but I'm sure many others feel same but are denied.
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OK, it sounds like you no longer need to hurry out to buy a gun once you are approved. It has been quite a few years since I got my permit, but at the time the thinking was that you don't need the permit if you don't own a handgun so you better get one as soon as possible.
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My son was recently issued a full carry in Ulster County and there was no mention of a time limit. After he picked up the permit he bought a gun and went back for the coupon. The downside is that the purchase still had to be approved by a judge so there was a delay in picking it up. The issuing judge commented that my son having taken a safety course as well as an Article 35 course with a professional trainer made him comfortable issuing the full carry permit.
May I ask what judge he was assigned?
What is Article 35 course, was that the live fire additional training? Safeshoot mentioned an additional live fire course after I go thru the additional NRA online segment to complete my safety training, is this same or different?
I have squeaky clean record other than a couple minor traffic violations that I've never even had 1 point go on my license so I'm hopeful of getting full carry first go around but I'm sure many others feel same but are denied.
Article 35 refers to NYS penal law Article 35 on the use of force and deadly physical force. It's about knowing if and when you can deploy a weapon in defense of self or others. This is much different from going to the range and learning how to shoot and learning how to be a safe gun handler... It's great if you can shoot the eye out of a squirrel at 25 yards but knowing if you should shoot, or even display a gun, is perhaps more important to your long term freedom and financial security.
For example, there was a former NYC transit cop in the armed guard training I took for academic reasons. He'd been in multiple shoot outs on the job and was sweating and visibly shaking on the range due to what amounted to PTSD from the gun fights. He wasn't what I'd call a "good shot." However, he survived not only the gun fights but the legalities that go with them because he understood the law.
In short, knowing how to shoot is only half the equation. Knowing when to shoot is the other half. The judges seem to be interested in whether applicants understand that... the applicant having training helps give the judges confidence in their decisions about issuing a full carry. That is generally more important than the "judge lottery" that comes up as a discussion item from time to time. Some may view this as an infringement but I, after spending decades looking at gun issues see it as a smart survival tool. I took a deep academic dive into gun issues over my life. That ranges from Constitutional, criminology, sociology, organizational, regulation, shooting, training, and working in a gunsmith shop. My associates laid the ground work for Heller and McDonald and I critiqued papers and journal articles to support good public policy.
Because of all of that experience I know that there are others who have specialized knowledge who should be consulted on specific topics. Not to offend anyone, but quite frankly, the last guy I'd take advice from on the use of force is the guy behind the gun counter... the overwhelming majority of them haven't been trained in and don't know the practical application of Article 35. I'm not inclined to take advice from a cop either as they are given more latitude in the legal system than Joe Citizen--and are indemnified by their departments regardless of how good or badly they do things. It's just the way it is. A professional trainer, preferably one whom has courtroom experience, is a better option. Such training is any eye opener and some students have changed their mind about carrying a gun after participating in such a course.
Anyhow, this probably all sounds preachy. I apologize for that, but I won't apologize for raising awareness and provoking thought.
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A suggestion:
You can go to a place like SafeShoot in Kingston and rent guns to shoot on their range. (Not sure if you can do this before getting the PP tho)
I shot a P365 there because small guns are often "snappy", good to "try before you buy" for sure, now looking to buy one. LOL
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My son was recently issued a full carry in Ulster County and there was no mention of a time limit. After he picked up the permit he bought a gun and went back for the coupon. The downside is that the purchase still had to be approved by a judge so there was a delay in picking it up. The issuing judge commented that my son having taken a safety course as well as an Article 35 course with a professional trainer made him comfortable issuing the full carry permit.
May I ask what judge he was assigned?
What is Article 35 course, was that the live fire additional training? Safeshoot mentioned an additional live fire course after I go thru the additional NRA online segment to complete my safety training, is this same or different?
I have squeaky clean record other than a couple minor traffic violations that I've never even had 1 point go on my license so I'm hopeful of getting full carry first go around but I'm sure many others feel same but are denied.
Article 35 refers to NYS penal law Article 35 on the use of force and deadly physical force. It's about knowing if and when you can deploy a weapon in defense of self or others. This is much different from going to the range and learning how to shoot and learning how to be a safe gun handler... It's great if you can shoot the eye out of a squirrel at 25 yards but knowing if you should shoot, or even display a gun, is perhaps more important to your long term freedom and financial security.
For example, there was a former NYC transit cop in the armed guard training I took for academic reasons. He'd been in multiple shoot outs on the job and was sweating and visibly shaking on the range due to what amounted to PTSD from the gun fights. He wasn't what I'd call a "good shot." However, he survived not only the gun fights but the legalities that go with them because he understood the law.
In short, knowing how to shoot is only half the equation. Knowing when to shoot is the other half. The judges seem to be interested in whether applicants understand that... the applicant having training helps give the judges confidence in their decisions about issuing a full carry. That is generally more important than the "judge lottery" that comes up as a discussion item from time to time. Some may view this as an infringement but I, after spending decades looking at gun issues see it as a smart survival tool. I took a deep academic dive into gun issues over my life. That ranges from Constitutional, criminology, sociology, organizational, regulation, shooting, training, and working in a gunsmith shop. My associates laid the ground work for Heller and McDonald and I critiqued papers and journal articles to support good public policy.
Because of all of that experience I know that there are others who have specialized knowledge who should be consulted on specific topics. Not to offend anyone, but quite frankly, the last guy I'd take advice from on the use of force is the guy behind the gun counter... the overwhelming majority of them haven't been trained in and don't know the practical application of Article 35. I'm not inclined to take advice from a cop either as they are given more latitude in the legal system than Joe Citizen--and are indemnified by their departments regardless of how good or badly they do things. It's just the way it is. A professional trainer, preferably one whom has courtroom experience, is a better option. Such training is any eye opener and some students have changed their mind about carrying a gun after participating in such a course.
Anyhow, this probably all sounds preachy. I apologize for that, but I won't apologize for raising awareness and provoking thought.
May I ask who offers this Article 35 course? It definitely seams like it would definitely help with decision making if the time and need were ever to arise....
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A suggestion:
You can go to a place like SafeShoot in Kingston and rent guns to shoot on their range. (Not sure if you can do this before getting the PP tho)
I shot a P365 there because small guns are often "snappy", good to "try before you buy" for sure, now looking to buy one. LOL
Yes I plan on taking advantage of that service at SafeShoot.... it's a pretty cool business model they have, I'm impressed. Might need to choose from going shooting at range over playing golf when I'm not fishing! Lol
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Pat call that number on our home page ask for sha he does all them courses.
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May I ask who offers this Article 35 course? It definitely seams like it would definitely help with decision making if the time and need were ever to arise....
There is a trainer in Kingston who teaches armed guards, police and civilians. He's also an expert witness in use of force court cases:
thttacticaltraining@gmail.com for information.
Another trainer is in Syracuse:
http://www.shootershaven.com/events/article-35-use-of-force-justification-in-nys-6/
Orange County Sheriff's dept. offers a course. My caveats about LEOs as trainers applies!:
https://www.orangecountygov.com/969/Use-of-Force-NYS-Penal-Law-Article-35
Another Syracuse:
https://psanded.com/courses/defense/a35/
You may also be able to get the Article 35 training by attending a course at one of the armed guard training academies.
There are probably others...
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Pat call that number on our home page ask for sha he does all them courses.
I looked there while composing my response a few minutes ago and didn't see an Article 35 course... perhaps I missed it!
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Maybe he dont but give him a call as he has been one of our sponsors here for 5 years.
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Maybe he dont but give him a call as he has been one of our sponsors here for 5 years.
Will do.... I have tons of questions as far as what courses I want for state reciprocity so I may need more instruction.
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Maybe he dont but give him a call as he has been one of our sponsors here for 5 years.
Will do.... I have tons of questions as far as what courses I want for state reciprocity so I may need more instruction.
For reciprocity, Utah and Florida are the big two. Even just having Utah gives you reciprocity in a tremendous number of states. However, most Northeastern states are not included in this. To be able to carry in PA you must get a PA permit, which is very easy to do. Every county in PA is different, just like in NY. The easiest thing to do is go to Scranton. I was in and out very quickly and very cheaply. There are some states where it is impossible to legally carry as a NY resident, regardless of what permits you acquire. As an aside, NY does not recognize any permits from any other state at all, so only NY residents can carry in NY.
There is a lot of information available online regarding reciprocity. Some guys work at it and try to "collect" the ability to carry in as many states as possible. I have Utah and PA and feel this is sufficient. I started the Florida process and then decided there was really no reason for me personally.
I do agree with you that my Ulster County pistol permit course was significantly lacking in a lot of the actual details regarding getting the permit and then also in carrying. Now that you have the permit, the responsibility is on you to learn the legality of carrying in different places within the state. Trying to stay within the exact letter of the law is extraordinarily difficult if you carry every day. You cannot leave your pistol in your car (unless perhaps you have a lockable safe in the vehicle). You also cannot carry it in any government building. So no stopping at the post office to mail a package. Rest areas on 87 are government-owned, so you cannot carry your pistol inside and cannot leave it in your vehicle. No stopping at one of those for gas or a snack while on your way up to the Adirondacks. You also cannot carry your pistol while you are bowhunting, as then you have a firearm with you while you are bowhunting. However, you can have a pistol with you while you are waterfowl hunting, even though the harvesting of waterfowl with any handgun at all is federally illegal (even a 410 pistol is illegal on waterfowl). This is just the tip of the iceberg. NY has a LOT of laws concerning legally carrying, laws I very much doubt most permit holders know or understand.
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Who says u cant leave your pistol locked in your car. several years back i looked into this and couldnt find any written law about leaving your gun in a car.
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Does anyone know the reciprocity of our neighboring states of CT, RI and Mass? It looks like they are not recognized by Utah or Florida. When I'm fishing Salt I may sail thru NY,CT and RI waters on a single trip... do I need to apply individually in these states if I wish to carry?
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Overland said: and I'm not saying that he is wrong...
You also cannot carry it in any government building. So no stopping at the post office to mail a package. Rest areas on 87 are government-owned, so you cannot carry your pistol inside and cannot leave it in your vehicle. No stopping at one of those for gas or a snack while on your way up to the Adirondacks.
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When I took the class they covered federal buildings and property (i.e. Post office), but said nothing of state buildings. Would this include state lands(no i think). You left out schools, NYNY, and Buffalo, what else?
Ulster sheriff should have a fact sheet covering the updated dos and don't rules in a nutshell Does anyone know if it exists so we don't have to go on hearsay.
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When I took the class they covered federal buildings and property (i.e. Post office), but said nothing of state buildings. Would this include state lands(no i think). You left out schools, NYNY, and Buffalo, what else?
Ulster sheriff should have a fact sheet covering the updated dos and don't rules in a nutshell Does anyone know if it exists so we don't have to go on hearsay.
The laws are confusing...and many. I don't claim to have a full knowledge of all of them and some of what I believe may not be entirely correct. I know the rest area part is correct though. It's also illegal to possess a pistol on the grounds of any school, so no carrying while picking up your child at school, even if you never get out of your vehicle. Here is a discussion on leaving a pistol in one's vehicle in NY: https://nyfirearms.com/forums/laws-politics-firearms-self-defense-weapons/19502-leaving-pistol-your-car.html
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Does anyone know the reciprocity of our neighboring states of CT, RI and Mass? It looks like they are not recognized by Utah or Florida. When I'm fishing Salt I may sail thru NY,CT and RI waters on a single trip... do I need to apply individually in these states if I wish to carry?
I looked into this. None of those three states recognize reciprocity with any other states. However, all three of those states are willing to issue permits to non-residents (not clear how strict/difficult this is). This website is particularly useful for understanding permits and reciprocity: https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/ma-gun-laws/
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CT was fairly easy to get an out of state license from. Had to provide proof of having completed a live fire course. IIRC
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I may be doing another through hike with my daughter Bryce this summer before she heads off to college. Always want to carry whenever possible. Looks like I picked the right trail and state. Vermont Long Trail!
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I can make a suggestion as to what gun Id recommend for compact CC. But Id like to recommend the path to prepare for it. If your new to shooting a handgun then building the skillset to manipulate the gun and place accurate shots is the biggest concern. You have to take the responsibility of CC serious. If your gonna carry than you need to be confident thru establishing honed ability. To start from scratch learning on a compact/micro pistol is not where to pop your handgun cherry. Small guns have more muzzle rise from shorter barrels/lighter weight, are easier to pull/push shots, gripping them is more complex with less available grip area. So I suggest buying a full size pistol in 9mm and honing your skills there first. You can buy a second gun (excuses to buy more guns is always a plus) that better suits the small size for easy concealment after the fact (or the same time, your choice). Trust me that building the proper handling and shooting form on a full size will happen faster and easier. Then the transition to a smaller pistol will be less frustrating.
Now for the gun itself, for a compact CC Pistol: Go the striker fired route without external safeties to minimize having to remember to manipulate anything other than the trigger press in a high stress situation. The Sig P365 is my first choice as its hard to beat with its size, capacity, and accuracy. Well made and proven reliability.
For a first full size gun, stick with the same striker style in 9mm to "train you into the CC". M&P, Sig, Walther, or Glock. A note on Glocks though; they have a steeper grip angle than most other pistols that use the standard 1911 (11 degree) angle so it makes going from a Glock to anything else disrupt your established grip to point of aim.
Lastly, though you arent a revolver guy, DA revos are a good CC option. Simple and no external safety distractions. They are a good tool to learn trigger control, they never fail to feed or extract between shots, or stovepipe. If it doesnt go bang your natural reaction to pull the trigger again will work whereas a pistol you need to remember to slap & rack to get a shot off. Food for thought!
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Lots of great advise Balisticianx thanks.
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Interesting info I hadn't considered, thank you.
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I may be doing another through hike with my daughter Bryce this summer before she heads off to college. Always want to carry whenever possible. Looks like I picked the right trail and state. Vermont Long Trail!
Hiking in Vermont is pretty special. I've done an end-to-end hike of the Long Trail and it is significantly more remote than the Long Path. I also hiked just the southern section another time. The northern section is quite rugged and a lot of fun. I never felt any reason to have a pistol while hiking it, but to each their own. It's a fantastic trail, likely my favorite that I've hiked. I'm sure you will both very much enjoy the experience.
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I can make a suggestion as to what gun Id recommend for compact CC. But Id like to recommend the path to prepare for it. If your new to shooting a handgun then building the skillset to manipulate the gun and place accurate shots is the biggest concern. You have to take the responsibility of CC serious. If your gonna carry than you need to be confident thru establishing honed ability. To start from scratch learning on a compact/micro pistol is not where to pop your handgun cherry. Small guns have more muzzle rise from shorter barrels/lighter weight, are easier to pull/push shots, gripping them is more complex with less available grip area. So I suggest buying a full size pistol in 9mm and honing your skills there first. You can buy a second gun (excuses to buy more guns is always a plus) that better suits the small size for easy concealment after the fact (or the same time, your choice). Trust me that building the proper handling and shooting form on a full size will happen faster and easier. Then the transition to a smaller pistol will be less frustrating.
Now for the gun itself, for a compact CC Pistol: Go the striker fired route without external safeties to minimize having to remember to manipulate anything other than the trigger press in a high stress situation. The Sig P365 is my first choice as its hard to beat with its size, capacity, and accuracy. Well made and proven reliability.
For a first full size gun, stick with the same striker style in 9mm to "train you into the CC". M&P, Sig, Walther, or Glock. A note on Glocks though; they have a steeper grip angle than most other pistols that use the standard 1911 (11 degree) angle so it makes going from a Glock to anything else disrupt your established grip to point of aim.
Lastly, though you arent a revolver guy, DA revos are a good CC option. Simple and no external safety distractions. They are a good tool to learn trigger control, they never fail to feed or extract between shots, or stovepipe. If it doesnt go bang your natural reaction to pull the trigger again will work whereas a pistol you need to remember to slap & rack to get a shot off. Food for thought!
great post thank you
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I prefer pocket carry, as i do not wear a belt and IWB or OWB is difficult for me...... I own a good variety of name brand wonder 9's but oddly enough i settled on carrying a kel tec PF9...... lightest 9mm i can find and i can even pocket carry in sweat pants or gym shorts with a desantis pocket holster....... as far as state reciprocity goes, i currently have my Penn, Florida, Utah, NH and Maine non resident permits...... since i have got them Maine and NH have become constitutional carry states so i will not be reapplying when they expire...... I tell everyone that Utah isnt worth the effort...... i will be letting mine expire when its time...... i have my Florida permit and with the exception of the states of washington & new mexico they are the exact same in regards to reciprocity...... plus Utah excepts florida and florida does not except Utah!....... Penn is easy to get...... i get mine in Berks county at the reading airport which is a 25 minute drive from cabelas in Hamburg and its only $20 bucks and takes 5 minutes........ heres a link to a site i use to piece together reciprocity (and its updated every couple months)...... https://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html
as far as Mass, RI and CT, they all can be had but its a little more effort..... Mass for example needs to be done in person and only lasts 1 year....... i thought about driving up to Lee Mass and getting mine but i really don't go to mass ever and when my wife and I are making our vacation plans, we always plan around my carry reciprocity anyway..... its half the reason i got florida in the first place...... lots of family their and in the next 5 years after i get my time in for my NYS pension, were moving their anyway......
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Glock 43 is a sweet 9mm, have the bodyguard 380, while small and concealable I don’t recommend,has a real ooooty trigger and thinking of doing a trigger job! Also have a S&W 38 airweight for summer wear.
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Just received notice of some upcoming classes on NYS Penal Law Article 35 on the use of force and deadly physical force from Ken Cooper. Information that is as important as knowing how to use your gun if you are carrying for self defense.
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Practical Application of the Law - NYS Article 35 (Use of Force)
3 New Dates (9AM-5PM)
Location: See Below
This course deals with the responsibility to make proper decisions with regard to the use of force is an ever present reality and is not lessened by the fact that the armed citizen must make these decisions under the worst of circumstances. State Residents know that their use of force will necessarily be subject to scrutiny both form within and without the Criminal Justice System; criminal and civil prosecution may be the result if the individual’s actions are deemed unlawful or inappropriate. Yet, failure to use force when it is reasonable and necessary may very well mean injury or death to the person and / or innocent civilians. In particular, this course deals with NYS Law Article 35.
The class will be offered as follows (please specify when registering):
Feb. 29: 9AM-5PM - $100.00 per person
Dutchess County Rifle and Pistol Association - offered through the Well Armed Women. This class is for women only.
To register, email Jackie Emslie at jslie@earthlink.net
March 14: 9AM-5PM - $150.00 per person
Marbletown Sportsmens Club - open to all
To register, email Carol Wills Laurito at ckf3@msn.com
March 21: 9AM-5PM - $175.00 per person
Dutchess County Rifle and Pistol Association - open to all
To register, email Jackie Emslie at jslie@earthlink.net
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Up until recently only had full size Tarus PT-92 9mm and a Ruger SR45 which were hard to carry. Just got a Smith and Wesson M&P shield 9mm and LOVE IT! Not too small not too big, fits in front pocket or belt line comfortably and shoots great. Worth looking into in my opinion. if at first you don't succeed just buy another one? lol You can never have too many guns! Hahahahaha good luck
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So true get as many as u can while can.
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I was a dumbass and got distracted with fishing season coming up and never turned in my permit application, I will be certain to get it submitted right after things open back up!